😱 EXPOSED! Jason De Puy Reveals The Unseen Drama With Devens & Kamu, Says It Was “Very She/Her Energy”

While fans on social media are taking issue with several anti-gay and anti-drag comments made by Kamu Kirk, Jason confirms the MMA fighter “never said anything that made it personal” within the game. He knows Kamu was “uncomfortable with the drag queen stuff,” but it never rose to the level of bullying. “You’re not going to sit here and bully me when I can bully back if I need to,” Jason explains.

One unseen moment that Jason wants fans to know about is when he, Rick Devens, and Kamu got into a fight over pronouns after the infamous tea party. “I kept calling him ‘she/her,'” Jason tells us about Kamu. “I kept calling him the queen of the tea party, and I could tell I was getting under his skin.”

Jason continues: “Devens spoke up and said, ‘Hey, maybe you want to get his pronouns right.’ And I was, like, ‘Oh, I’m sorry. You’re just acting like a drag queen. You’re acting like a Housewife, very she/her energy.’ And he was like, ‘Well, it’s he/him.’ And I was like, ‘Oh, great. Alpha male. Mr. King. Father God.’ I was just leaning into this thing that I knew made him so uncomfortable, because you’re not going to sit here and bully me when I can bully back if I need to. I could tell underneath it all, that was all part of who he was. I’m just happy it never got personal in the house in that way, but I did let it be known, ‘If you’re going to sit here and make me feel uncomfortable, mister, you’re going to be just as uncomfortable, too.'”

Also in our exit interview, the Drag Race alum reveals why he’s rooting for Barrett Pfeiffer to win the game, why he could never work with the three reality TV icons, and how it feels knowing America really loves him.

Gold Derby: We are here with Jason, aka Salina EsTitties, aka Messy Bitch with a teapot. You were having a blast in the house this summer and fans really did fall in love with you. What do you hope will be your Big Brother legacy?

Jason De Puy: I just hope that I can continue to stay in the Big Brother world. Maybe as a returning player? That would be so great to get to redeem myself and have a chance to play for real, for real. Not that this wasn’t for real, but just very early on, I just kept getting torn down. It’s hard to play Big Brother when you don’t have power, but I guess that’s what we love about it. “How are the kids without power going to try to get out on top?” I tried as hard as I could.

Of the 14 people left in the game, who are you personally rooting for to win Season 28?

I would love if Barrett can pull it out. If Barrett can get his way there, he’s set up in a really cute spot right now. I think he has a great chance, and I think he’s a smart enough player and he knows the game so well that it could benefit him in the long run.

On Day 1, you decided to keep your Drag Race identity a secret. Do you regret not teaming up with the other icons: Dee Valladares, Rick Devens, and Angela Murray? There is a time machine in the house if you want to go back and do it again.

Put me in the time machine! Let me see what that would do. [Laughs.] Honestly, I think the way that Devens opened up the way this game’s going to play, the way that he takes people’s words, twists them, and outs people’s games like he did with Rome [Seymour], and the way Kamu did with me at the tea party, it’s clear they were very savage with how they were willing to play their game. And I don’t think that if I aired out the Drag Race thing, it would fare well for me. I don’t think the kids in the house knew what Drag Race was. They definitely don’t know that the All Stars version I played was strategic. It would’ve just been confusing to them. I think they would’ve thought, “Oh, he’s a rich reality star. He doesn’t need to be here.” It would’ve worked against me since they’re so unfamiliar with Drag Race.

Dee, Devens, and Angela come from strategic games that they watched. They’re already known. They didn’t know who I was. I don’t think it would’ve made such a difference. And the icons, I think it would’ve been more threatening to Devens. I think he hated that I was such a showboat and that I stole the spotlight and that I was a bigger star than him in the house, without being a “star.” I don’t think he liked it. So I think if he knew I was an actual star, it would’ve been more threatening to him.

You and Angela were responsible for the most explosive nomination ceremony in Big Brother history. Even Dee said later on that that moment was “better than winning Survivor.” How does it feel knowing BB fans will be talking about this moment forever?

She said that?! Oh my God, that’s cool. I don’t set out to think, “Oh, this is going to be an iconic reality TV moment.” My favorite thing about me that I learned from Big Brother was that my raw, vulnerable emotion is who I am. I don’t go out seeking to make TV. I don’t go out looking for a viral moment. And I hope it comes across authentically the fact that these moments were just me in the moment heated. If you’re going to come for me, I’m going to make a fool out of me and you.

It seems like you and Angela had this on-again, off-again relationship. At the end of the day, how do you really feel about Miss Egg?

Listen, I actually love Miss Egg. I think it’s very clear that me and Angela had this understanding that we really loved each other, but in a game sense, I could tell she just didn’t trust me, and I knew I couldn’t trust her. That was the hard part. We knew we had so much respect for each other, so much admiration for each other, and as much as I wanted to just be her girlfriend, there’s a game at play and I could tell that we weren’t on board with each other since the beginning when she saw me smiling.

How does it feel knowing that you were in the Top 3 of all of the Time Capsule votes?

Oh my God, it feels amazing. In the house, I would’ve hoped that I had my drag queens on my side, my queer community on my side. The biggest hurdle I dealt with in the house was thinking that America just did not like me. The way that half the cast didn’t like me, I was like, “Well, if half the cast here doesn’t like me, maybe half of America doesn’t like me.” I was very disheartened when Angela won the first one. I would’ve thought I definitely had an edge being the Drag Race contestant, being the only LGBTQ+ representation in the house. I thought I would have all of them on my side, but we have to remember America’s so much bigger than my gay little bubble. So to know that I was even Top 3, I think speaks volumes and I need to take that into consideration.

When you get your phone back, you’re going to read a lot of things about Kamu, including some anti-gay posts that he liked and anti-drag comments that he made. On a personal level, did you ever feel bullied or threatened by Kamu?

The tea party was definitely, obviously, he was trying to out and pin me against the wall, which he did. Did it feel personal? I could tell that it was underneath it all. He never said anything that made it personal, I’ll give him that much. But I can tell he was uncomfortable with the drag queen stuff, which was interesting. The word drag queen triggered him enough. I never put a stitch of makeup on. I never paraded around in a dress. I was the most masculine I’ve ever been in my life being in the Big Brother house. Drew [Campbell] and Barrett actually were the ones who were having the most fun dancing around. Drew did a lot of pranks where he was almost naked in front of Kamu, and I could tell he hated it. When he did isolate me at the tea party, I decided to make that moment, “If he’s going to make me try to feel uncomfortable, I’m going to make him feel just as uncomfortable.”

Your biggest supporter out there, no surprise, is your real life bestie, Frankie Grande. He said last night that you’re probably going to be on The Traitors before him. I think he’s jealous.

You know what would be iconic? Put me and Frankie on the next Big Brother: All Stars together. Watch us band together and take over the house!